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Terreur : est le mot qui définit le débat mondial, l’objet de milliards de dollars de dépenses gouvernementales.

Mais comment définissons-nous le terme « terreur » pour nous-mêmes? Quelle expérience en avons-nous dans nos vies ? Et plus important, comment contribuons-nous à un monde dans lequel la terreur et la crainte ne sont pas des forces motrices de la politique internationale?

Sonia Faleiro écrit sur la façon dont les Musulmans d’Inde ont été traités après les explosions à Bombay. La vidéo provocante de Lisa Ling examine la raison pour laquelle les femmes prennent part à des attentats suicides. Les contributions dans ce sous-thème ne sont pas évidentes à digérer – mais elles nous donnent des perspectives de réflexion sur le sujet de la terreur qui peuvent nous conduire à des solutions plus constructives.
Imagining Ourselves Team
Etats Unis
Terror: it is a word defining a global debate controlled by the media. In the past five years many of us have felt the threat and horror of acts of terrorism. But how to we define the term ‘terror’ for ourselves? And more importantly, how can we contribute to a world in which terror and fear are not the driving forces of global politics?

The Imagining Ourselves Team invites you to join in the conversation!
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sesame seed
Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 11:31 AM
Saw this poem online by Amiri Baraka...worth sharing (below is only the first few lines...read the entire poem on http://www.amiribaraka.com/blew.html

(All thinking people
oppose terrorism
both domestic
& international…
But one should not
be used
To cover the other)

They say its some terrorist, some
A Rab, in
It wasn't our American terrorists
It wasn't the Klan or the Skin heads
Or the them that blows up nigger
Churches, or reincarnates us on Death Row
It wasn't Trent Lott
Or David Duke or Giuliani
Or Schundler, Helms retiring

It wasn't
the gonorrhea in costume
the white sheet diseases
That have murdered black people
Terrorized reason and sanity
Most of humanity, as they pleases

They say (who say? Who do the saying
Who is them paying
Who tell the lies
Who in disguise
Who had the slaves
Who got the bux out the Bucks

Who got fat from plantations
Who genocided Indians
Tried to waste the Black nation

...for the complete poem, go to: http://www.amiribaraka.com/blew.html

Sesame Seed
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Imagining Ourselves Team
Etats Unis
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:29 PM
Dear all,
Thank you for your comments. Most of us seem to be in agreement that lack of education and opportunities drive people, especially young people, towards terrorism.

We would like to point out an email we received from one of our members about Sharmeen Obaid’s “Terror’s Children”

"I know from various readings that many madrassas do not teach what the Islamic religion stands for, they either go over board or do not give the right information but I do not believe the writers words-"poverty forces millions of people to send their children to Islamic religious schools, which do not inculcate critical thinking and encourage their students to develop a disdain for Western life and ideals". I strongly disagree with this sentence. When you are learned in the Islamic religion I see no reason for calling you uneducated."

This brings up a really important point.On the one hand, it would be unfair to automatically assume someone is uneducated if they attended a madrassa.
On the other hand, poverty often does limit access to education.

Do we look differently at people who are educated in other ways? Do these madrassas provide a balance of religious education as well as equip the students to complete in a global environment?

What do you think?

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Narayanan Rajagopalan
Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 9:44 AM
I am not trying to sound different. I opine as my nature dictates.I feel terrorist is like astunned and confused and infuriated child and terror is any toy in its hand. It is not easy to make the child understand that what it is doing is destroying peace and blocking the way to pacification. There could be many reasons why the child behaves that way, and if you slowly start unraveling the puzzle that is terrorism, you will see that it is not easy to atone what is already done and what is already history. Terrorism is like a festering would which refuses to heal. Left to make the decision myself I will probably take a century to erase the attitude for terrorism. I only half understand what I said here.
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Narendra Ch
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:54 AM
There is no definite defination of terror. Once known as terrorist may become freedom fighter later. Terrorist mainly execute his opeations basing upon the media's glorification. IF the media stop to give details of terrorist act, they would be finished. As all such acts intended to create terror through media. However media can not ignore the same.

One thing is sure no where in the world terrorist was checked with force. Ofcourse we need to use force to check and control its impact, but not the only solution. Unless we created awareness among people and the general public is ready to reject terrorism we can not put an end.

Only in Punjab terrorism was checked, not by military, but it was due to ordinary villagers were fed up with their acts and they stand against terrorism. It helped the police, of course. Against it was a record. In the world the police tackled problem of terrorism only in Punjab.

Nowadays governments attempting to gain some repressive powers in the name of war on terror. But ultimately such powers helping to isolate the public making their life hell. I strongly feel war on terror and human rights should not be opposite ones, but should go together.

Government should take intense measures to isolate the so called terrorists and also provide them avenues to join mainstream. ALso should address the basic issues like unemployment, infrastructure, education that are making the youth to attract towards terrorism.

Nowadays terror routed externally. It needs diplomatic initiatives to check such trends and also firm action on the part of the government.
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nancy zi
Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 3:33 AM
hi i really dont understand.why is it that some people find it very pleasing to make others regret why they are existing on earth.i mean it is so sad to know that there are so many terrible people in the world.let us all try and be considerate.lets all try to be understanding,and most especially love one another.the same thing you do to
hurt someone ,that same thing might happen to you someday.
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Tony Bulley
Nouvelle Zélande
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:51 PM
Kia Al-Kahlan

For a person who is promoting sesible soloutions you show very little intelligent consideration for others views and the way they express them, this is the whole problem with people in the world a lack of consideration for others views no matter how they express them , that is their veiws and they are entitled to them.

This is the whole basis of coperatiuon and understanding an accepptance of others views and feeling and input, no sensible solutions will be achieved through attacking other peoples views and input , maybe you should take a leaf out of your own book and allow that mirror of yours to reflect light , critisism does not sound senible either.
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Pravin baliya
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:44 AM
hi ! Bina how r u ? Did u get my messagege just sent
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Richa Gaur
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:28 PM
Terror does not mean it is being controlled by any particular religion. Religion never teaches to terrorise people or kill people. Any religion is based on harmony, peace and brotherhood. And Islam is no different religion. Because of few nasty people we cant say tat followers of Islam are terrorist.
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Kia Al-Kahlan
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 9:42 PM
I don't know, I don't think we need all this poetry and stuff. I think we need some common sense. Wouldn't that be nice? We people talking about sensible solutions should sound sensible ourselves.
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Tony Bulley
Nouvelle Zélande
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 9:07 PM
Well spoken Bina

How true that is i came across a saying years ago i try to instill in those i tutor and encourage to go get an education.

"Eduacation is the passport to the future - The future is for those who prepare today."

In a way you are right education will free people and give them a better understanding and knowledge to deal with life situations, however the west suffers from what we call the over educated, this means there is only so many jobs to go round, after that your education is often beyound the pay packets of a lot companies.

This does not mean one should not get educated , but Bina it is only one piece of the jigsaw.

Personally i feel you cannot instill peace in any child if their land has been stolen from them, for they seek for equality and self determination something thats rightfully theirs.

Oh New Zealand land of the long white cloud, but occupied by invaders , how do the ethnic Maori feel about this, how do i feel about this , well they have a right to whats theirs after all it was taken from them at the point of a gun, just because we are one so called educated countries does not excluded the crime or the justifyable rights of the Maori to reposses what is theirs.

As they get educated so they fight back using the legal system set down in Westminster England to seek compensation and restitution.

The young Maori children grow up in this enviroment so they cannot help but be drawn into the conflict because they are very much a part of it, and as they get more education and better understanding naturally some are going to want to ask ???.

Personally Bina sad as it may seem i doubt in your life time or mine we will ever see peace, it is not a word understood by man who progresses through life with all the wrong motives of greed and possesion.

Actually did you know there is enough food in the world to feed everyone, however i have a strong voice in my head tells me having studied the siituation the next set wars are going to be about a lot more than oil,rather about water, on tv yesterday a scientist warned Australians in 3to 5 years they could run out of water.

Youe right education will give these children something and that is hope, above all in life the worst thing can happen to anyone is to have no hope , i have seen families making bricks in India and their children and their children , why because they always remain in debt to the boss , because when it rains there is no work , so they borrow money to survive, this is a vicious circle these people and children i feel sorry for, they are truely the lost, they have no hope , no light at the end of the day in life.

These are the children world organizations should be targeting, we have a voluntery organization here in New Zealand called trade aid i worked for about a year for this organization lecturing to various groups and selling arts and crafts from third world countries, this organization provides the money to womens groups to help them cut out the middle man and enable them to get on their feet and get money to educate their children , we need more of this type activity, to enable people , women to become self sufficient and independant , then when they can help themselves they can help their children.

You see often children do get some form of education but when it comes to going on to further education or collage or universty then their families cannot afford the money and often need the child/children to work to help the family survie.

I think there is a lot talent out there wasted that could be used, we live in a society where everyone need s a qualification to teach , thats rubbish in life you do not need paper to do anything , but what you do need is the love and desire to help others, how many older people like myself would like to do something with their lives to benifit others , but cant because all these organizations want this certificate and that, sad really so much need in the world. Tony NZ.
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Bina Shah
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 8:01 PM
"After watching Sharmeen visiting and befriending these Afghan refugee children, do you believe that the circumstances they live in, the responsibilities they bear, the hatred they feel from the community they fled to are breeding violence, hatred and a new generation of terrorists? What can be done to instill a wish for peace in these children?"

The only thing that can help these children in the long term is education. If they are educated, they will begin to see a different way of life for themselves. Education is the only thing that nobody can take away from you. It instills a dignity and a sense of self-worth that will automatically elevate these children from the survival, hand-to-mouth existence that they are being brought up in. We should all support as many educational projects as possible, because that is the only way through to real peace.
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Tony Bulley
Nouvelle Zélande
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 5:30 PM
To The Lovely Children of Earth
Man has little consideration of life
While children die of war and strife
What's yours is mine another Day
Don’t ask just take steal away
Does anyone out there shed a tear?
As thousands live in constant fear
Or lift a hand with a smile
Or carry the load another mile
No most sit watch and stare
For children they have little care
What’s it take to make a stand?
Give of oneself a helping hand
Bringing a smile to a small face
Showing love and hate replace
Making this earth as all one
A loving place under the sun
Knowing when we part this life
We did our bit to end their strife
Giving children back their smile
Yes we did we went that extra mile
Tony Robin Bulley

Id like to think at this moment in time we can all take a few minutes to remember the most important people in this world who suffer from terror , those who are too little to defend themselves and even less to comprehend what is going on around them, the children and babies of this world.

I was watching a documentary on Canbodia last night and it has been listed as having one most corupt govermnets on earth, the country is rife with coruption , back handed payments and the like.

But the main point of this documentary was how children , girls that is were being exploted not just their families but by organizations set up to help them , and how they were being used to manipuate large sums of money out of westerners by accusing them of rape and sexual interferance.

I have to say i was disgusted to say the least that there exist two sets of rules in Cambodia and how these organizations were using these girls to explout westerners out of large sums of money on trumped up charges , and if they didnt pay they would be jailed.

This is the direct outcome of a country embroiled for years in war , reduced to poverty and then exploiting its female children in the sex industery, while on the one hand trying to appear to the west as having a policy of eradicating this problem yet openly just down the road from the couthouse in the capital there are old men having sexual relationships with girls as young as 12.

This is the type of situation where women of the world need to look closly at what is going on in these third world countries, there are a few come to mind here in asia who have double standards.

This type of action beingcarried on in Cambodia is another form of terrosim where these young girls are being paid off by police and others to make false accusations at the expense of their own chastity a very important factor in marriage in Cambodia, with threats to them what will happen if they dont speak out.

So terroism is not just in the form of terror it has a nasty phycological side to it which these countries try to hide away with a few programs to con the west and their donors, as in the case of Cambodia very hard to prove as its probably one most corupt nations on earth.

Of course Cambodians will put up their hands and deny this but we in new zealand have well documented evidence , by lawyers and press.

Why i say all this is we cannot treat a six inch cut with a four inch plaster , it will still bleed, the consequences of war and terror are far more implicating than the actual terror itself.

I think your right Moderator , we are fed a lot of one sided news in the media and press on Muslims in the west, as to how evil they are , well there are a lot eveil christians out there as well, news tends to focus on the bad , thas what makes good news, i heard a saying once todays news is tomorrows chip paper , the problem is todays news is so focused on evil of Muslims it leaves a lasting impression on those not educated enough to see their are two sides to a story just as there are two sides to a coin.

I like to hear what Rahina has to say , personally i have some very good Muslim friends and i dont suddenly say to people these are Muslims, no i say these are my friends

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Bruce Larson*Moore
Etats Unis
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 5:10 PM
Hymn of the Martyr

If you oppress me, my words will gather strength,

If you imprison me, my words will grow in power,

If you embattle me, my words will turn destruction against you,

If you kill me, my words will haunt your grandchildren's, grandchildren,

* * *
If you embrace me, my words will fade into yours, as yours fade into mine, my lips will speak of you, as yours speak of me,

Together we build tolerance, understanding, compassion, trust and truth,

Divided we foster only fear and kill only trust, divided we know only the death of the other,

Together we understand and know our lives, and embrace the Hymn of Peace for our grandchildren's, grandchildren.

* * *

One's reaction to a given action is the fuel which gives the POWER for that action to continue, gun begets gun, landmine begets landmine, rocket begets rocket, revenge begets revenge, - tolerance begets tolerance, hope begets hope, love begets love, truth begets truth, PEACE begets PEACE.

Keeping guns, landmines, rockets and fear in ones own backyard is ones choice, but when you take them into another's yard, you get what you beget.

People with weapons of any kind, who use them in fear and violence are just as responsible for the situation, as the social culture which supports their development, deployment and use.

Teaching anyone to kill via video games, hand to hand or by pressing a button to launch a war head, will continue to result in creating those who trust that violence can give them control.

Education and opportunities are the solutions.

Heal the children by embracing the simple fact that truth is the spirit of all faith and s'he offers a life and a world without terror, without fear, embraced in the love and spirit of he'r peaceful reality.

offer them love, peace, education, understanding and they will build the world you seek, a world embraced in L.esson, O.pportunity, V.ariety and E.volution.

One is both the mirror and the reflection, seek not to return energy, but to give*light.

Truth - All*Ways leads to Peace

Peace - All*Ways leads to Truth

Truth is the spirit of all faith, peace is the way.

* * *
New*World - Olympic*Dream

Dream the People's, Olympic Dreams,
Create the People's, Sustainable Dreams,
Live the People's, Cultural Dreams,
Respect the People's, Individual Dreams,
Dream Humanities, Olympic Dream,
One*World - One*Dream

World*Peace - No*Compromise

Bruce Larson*Moore
World*Peace - Profit
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Imagining Ourselves Team
Etats Unis
Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 11:58 AM
Jean, Rahina and Tony, thank you for your comments. Rahina, your comment is very insightful, what do you believe you can do to change people opinions about Islam? Do you believe that the media is only reporting a one sided image?


Acts of terrorism is usually associated with men, but watch the excerpt from Lisa Lings film: Female Suicide Bombers - Dying to Kill. http://imaginingourselves.imow.org/pb/Story.aspx?id=946&lang=1

Why have women, traditionally not engaged in warfare or terrorism, decided to do give the ultimate sacrifice of their life for a cause they believe in? Is it a change in their own situation, or has society changed to encourage them? How and why does the public react differently when a woman becomes a suicide bomber? Lisa Ling mentions that of these women in the film, none of the were described by the families as being particularly pious or even religious, what other circumstances drove these women to do what they did?
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Tony Bulley
Nouvelle Zélande
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 3:42 PM
Sry i spent a whole hour writng a comment then when i clicked it vanished.

Basically what i wanted to say was about religion.

Religion defines us into boxes , it has nothing to do with faith not with the basis of spiritual belief because if it did the world as we know it would be a differant place altogether

You see the basis of belief whatever you follow is love, love has no boundaries or borders, it has no colour or race , it does not discrimate against one person or another , it does not dictate freedom at the point of a gun in the guise of something else.

Love overcomes all, it has understanding , it has tolerance, it has compassion , it creates benifits for all , it costs nothing to give and takes nothing for itself.It treats everyone as equal , it defines the very babsis of life itself and way we should live.

Tanzia read your story , my commnets , the Usa should learn if you play with a snake one day it will turn round and bite you, you cannot go round the world dictating to others freedom and beliefs at the point of a gun, and justify the deaths of millions of innocent civilians in the name of freedom and beliefs.

This is the policy of so called christain countries , where they want to impose their beliefs on supposedly suppressed countries , thas why i hate religion it has nothing to do with beliefs but more with about who is right and who is wrong, the funny thing is only 10% world have any religious beliefs at all, and of that christanity represents 1%.

Rahina course you not a bad person, and lets get this very clear who says that Muslims are terroists , those who would oppress them and have them under their control , why because they are afraid of the truth, maybe , and maybe theres a more underlying process here Rahina which only time will tell.

Im not convinced this is about terroism , but rather more to do with certain assets in various locations, but certain nations have used this as a guise to manipulate world opinion to where it is today.

For me personally no one can fool me im too old , this is about dictating freedom and beliefs at the end of a gun , who is the oppressors here and who is the oppressed, thats a good question , one has to wonder how people can be called terroists if they are fighting for what is legally their rights and beliefs, and isnt it hypocritical to cry wolf when the enemy strikes their homelands , after so many women and children have died in the last ten years in the name of freedom, one has to wonder freedom from who, because whether these so called nations have actually freed anyone i doubt more like the places they have occupied have become engulfed in poverty and civil war.

So you can probably see Tanzila and Rahina my thinking we have to be careful that what we believe is based on the principle of love, not only that but that we are actually practising what we believe in , otherwise we are no better than infidels ourselves , this is why i hate religion it has nothing to do with the truth of belief , it is merely a guise that has caused the deaths of countless millions of people world wide , if people stopped to realize that the basis of all belief is love what a great place the world would be , this is what we all should be striving for the message of world love , not named by religion or anything else but a basis for the way mankind to live upoun , a foundation for a better future with equality and understanding for all of us regardless of colour or creed.

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rahina adamu
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 8:29 AM
I am a muslim, so am i a terrorist? practicing my religion and studying it does not make me a bad person. What are we telling those that dont know anything about islam? are we sending the right message or not?
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rahina adamu
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 8:25 AM
Yes i do believe that, where extreme poverty and exclusion exist, definately terrorism and other evil has a chance for breeding. What am tired of hearing is the relating of islam to terrorism.Lets face it ,like any other religion in the world there those religious leaders that read the religion out of context and lead their followers to the wrong path. What we should be doing is finding ways to remedy the wrongs that have been done rather than finding those to blame and critising muslims.This will not helped at all, it will only bring in more anger and resentment. We must be sensitive to everyone's believe and ideas.We must watch the language we use at all times, we must accept our diffrences and work towards a peacefull, loving and forgiving world.
Being educated in one's religion is not a waste of time nor should that person be refered to as uneducated or illiterate.
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Jean Aris
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 6:46 AM
I am tired of this debate around- is it their fault or isn't it their fault. no one shoudl kill someone else, i don't care what their background is or how much they have sufer. my dad is haiti, he suffers but does he go and kill/
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Imagining Ourselves Team
Etats Unis
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:00 PM
Watch the short excerpt from Sharmeen's film "Terror's Children" http://imaginingourselves.imow.org/pb/Story.aspx?g=1&id=924&lang=1

After watching Sharmeen visiting and befriending these Afghan refugee children, do you believe that the circumstances they live in, the responsibilities they bear, the hatred they feel from the community they fled to are breeding violence, hatred and a new generation of terrorists? What can be done to instill a wish for peace in these children?
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Lisa Ling, Etats Unis
"Extrait de “Les Enfants de la Terreur ”"
Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy, Pakistan
"Mantras du Silence "
Tanzila Ahmed, Etats Unis
"Explosions à Bombay"
Sonia Faleiro, Inde
Bina Shah, Pakistan
"Alexander Detained"
Sharbari Zohra Ahmed, Etats Unis
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