¿Con el cerebro lavado?
¿Los medios se metieron en su armario? ¿Se sorprende a usted misma copiando la moda de su celebridad favorita o de su programa de televisión preferido? ¿Y eso es algo malo?
Acompáñenos mientras miramos lo bueno y lo malo de nuestro mundo globalizado y saturado por los medios. ¿Los medios nos lavaron el cerebro o son simplemente un reflejo de nosotros mismos? Únase a la conversación. |
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When I look at fashion magazines, I can admire the beauty—the hair, the makeup, I love fashion. It’s so wonderful and beautiful, but it makes me feel like I’m standing behind a glass door and those magazines are the other side of the world.
How much of a reality do beauty and fashion magazines play in your life? What is your reaction to the women you see in those magazines? How much do you try to model yourself after the women you see?
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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 9:47 AM
Peggy, I can relate to what you're saying about feeling better about yourself after losing all that weight. Yet even when I finally got to my ideal weight, I still didn’t feel completely satisfied. I had wrinkly skin, saggy skin, extra skin. I had that excess taken off my tummy, and I had my boobs done. They were lifted up and beautiful. I loved them.
I posed for Playboy, and I loved those pictures. They are beautiful and I will love them forever and I had a great time, but even then I did not feel like my body was pretty.
This is just what I’ve always been through and struggled with and probably always will. There are moments when I can look at a part of my body and say, oh okay, I’m cool with that. But most of the time, it’s something negative. And I try to be positive, but it is a difficult process. It’s a dream of mine to feel free enough to not care what anybody else thinks.
Are you able to be that free? Or, is there something about yourself that has changed or improved, but that you still have difficulty accepting as positive and as beautiful? |
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Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 7:44 AM
I buy what I want, wear what I like and avoid the latest. But, on the other hand, I am tall, thin (lost 40 pounds 4 years ago through exercise and smart eating) and would avoid gaining weight like the plague. I think I look better thin, but why do I think that? I know its better for me healthwise, but where did the look part come from? If I lived 50 years ago, would I still think thin looked better? |
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Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:49 AM
كل واحد في عقل براسو ماحدا بيغسل مخو بينما الانسان الضعيف الشخصية يتحكم فيه كل شي وليش فقط الاعلام |
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Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 6:24 AM
I dislike intensely most women's magazines and can simply not understand why women buy them. I don't see beauty in the female figures they present with their artificially made up faces, super slim bodies and tits that look more like bums.
The ultimate female beauty to me is a smoothskinned face with bright eyes and a big, friendly smile.
I wear the occasional lipstick and have my eyelashes tinted. I take 30-40 minutes to get ready in the morning including washing and drying my hair and - I like the way I look. It might just be good for me not to buy the magazines.
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 7:03 AM
Fashion magazines don't play a part in my life. I may look at the covers of magazines as I'm standing at the check-out line at the grocery store. My usual reaction is that I would not wear the fashions shown, even if I was at my ideal weight. Plus the models are not my idea of gorgeous. If I want to view something about fashion, I watch What Not to Wear. It gives ideas of what people should be looking at for their body type. |
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Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:38 AM
Ah yes fashion,
From a "man's perspective" I would guess that most men really don't care. However I was in the Automotive world for over 25. I had a very successful career. Fashion means a lot in the public. When I got home I kind of had a jeans and t-shirt attitude. Don't get me wrong when I go to buy something it's for all to see, and me to show off.
I have Cardin and Hillfiger suits. Florsheim shoes, 2 Rolex's and even a Mont Blanc Le Grand pen. Not for me, but for my clients and subordinates. For all to see my wife would say. Not only that but the more money I made the better I dressed and the better I felt, and most importantly. Again the more "money" I made. We have the nicest house in our gated community, and the nicest cars in our driveway, nicest furniture, clothes and so on. Without a doubt the "nicest" wife in all the world because that is "fashionable" too. All because of "Fashion" all of it, not just the magazines. The look, the prestige, the names. The perception is fashionable even. Today retired I still like to get dressed up and go out. Mitch in fashionable Southern California |
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Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 4:25 PM
I find a quote from the film "The Devil Wears Prada" to be the perfect answer to this question. The editor tells the "lowly assistant" that she may raise her nose to the silly fashion world and say that it is so superficial, but when she runs and purchases her Gap sweater she has no idea that average fashions are inspired by the runway.
While we may not like it, it is the entertainment community that shapes the eye of beauty in our society. It is the entertainment and fashion industry that paint the picture of perfection in our society. So, when I think of my reaction it is not, “I want to be like that.” It is, “I don’t want to be like that, but why do they?”
But, hey, I say that sitting here in a outfit inspired by the runway from the 1990’s. Who am I fooling? I am just as attached to that vision of beauty as everyone else.
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:10 PM
Luckily, I don't completely identify with what I watch on television. I rarely watch TV but for some reason when i do it's absolutely trash. Moreover, I think the media on television does a poorer job at portraying balanced messages than the internet (and this is also how I justify seeking 'trashy, gossiping and otherwise completely shallow reality television series to watch on TV). Do I do it because I'm obsessed with the way these female characters are portrayed? Not really, mostly because I am bored and I like the comfort of entertainment at my own leisure. In a sad way also, I watch these shows much in the same way I might observe as an anthropologist although there is very little similarities in the level that I am empowered to develop this information completely, I watch, I eat and run. This forum is perhaps the only way in which I can analyze how that I have invested any argument for how and why I watch.
I do not feel productive when I watch television however that isn't really my intention to be as a 'viewer'. If anything television adds a fine balance to the avoidance and counter productivity of the mind set to go-go-go... However, when the characters that i watch become prevalent influences in my head when actually trying to regain the control of my own reality and living experiences I find that drawing any parallels between my life and that of the women portrayed on television practically disturbing. It is at those time that I most regret having participated in such a non-reciprocal relationship as t.v. viewing and rather regain the composure of my own reality with the concerns & thoroughfares of the people in my very own circle. Those that know of my existence and of whom investing any kind of emotional connection will always be 10 times more satisfying than that of observing another's self-depiction through a made for t.v. appearance. |
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Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:40 PM
This conversation has already gotten very interesting and it is a pleasure to read all your comments and differing points of view.
I think that we have to stop comparing ourselves to each other. It’s hard not to, but I accept that there are certain things that are not going to change. I am not going to be 5’8”. I can’t be 5’8”! I’m 5’3 ½ ” and that’s it! I can’t change that. I can wear heels to add some inches but I am okay with my height. That is what God gave me. That’s me, and I have to be proud of me. What we put out is what we’re going to get back. So if we say we’re ugly, if we say we’re fat, if we say we’re gross that’s how we’re going to feel.
How many of you have a positive self-image? How did you get there? How many of us feel negative about our body types, not necessarily because of what we look like, but because of what we have told ourselves that we are?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:04 PM
I have to respectfully disagree with Kathryn-- though I really thank her for putting her point of view out there. There's a reason we titled this section "Brainwashed?" with a question mark at the end... not a statement, but a question.
I think Elizabeth has it right with seduced. Fashion mags are gorgeous-- they create supremely beautiful fantasies about how to play with color and cloth and style. I think that's the same reason celebrity mags are so fascinating-- why we are so obsessed with rating which celeb wore a dress better. I don't know about you guys but when I pick up US magazine in a hair salon or something, I can't put it down.
Even if we didn't have such magazines, even if we lived in pre-technology villages with no media at all, only our neighbors to interact with, we'd still start mimicking each other, comparing ourselves, deciding who is more beautiful, who is less beautiful... Okay, okay, perhaps we'd feel less of a need to consider buying a $300 pair of shoes, but the general pressure would still be there. ...And dare I say that such pressure may not completely be a bad thing? |
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:50 PM
A mixture of admiration, a little bit of hate/envy....that is my reaction when I see those fashion magazines. I admire them for being beautiful and bold enough to flaunt it......i envy them for having the right curves in the right places and possibly telling the world that this is how you ought to be as a woman....which I know is not true. You canot always look like you step out of a beauty salon and fashion house every day. Can you? if you ask me....fashion magazines/glossy magazines like I call them only add clutter to my life. I actually haven't bought them in ages.....I glanc through them when I see it with friend but never use my money to buy. Like Kathryn...they really don't do much for me. I have always being my own fashion icon anyway!!!! |
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:48 PM
Marie Mathiesen’s piece entitled Beautiful People
http://imaginingourselves.imow.org/pb/Story.aspx?G=1&C=0&id=1333&lang=1 is an intelligent and poignant look at our societies’ spiraling-out-of-control obsession with beauty. Even locked and hidden behind our computer screens, we are judged and judge others on the basis of their physical appearance.
What’s interesting about her piece is that it exposes the bloody sinews of the entire bloody process—the beautiful people are those who get voted beautiful by the majority of people who themselves were voted beautiful at some prior time. The standard is first set by some unnamed few, who establish themselves as the representatives of the standard and clone their foolish and naïve offspring in their image. Until, of course, the next uprising, a period of calm, followed by yet another beauty dictatorship.
Her entire piece is though-provoking, but the best part is that Marie exposes her own self-consciousness and failing confidence as she proceeds with this project.
In the beginning she is very confident; she is an intelligent, unconcerned and critical journalist who sets out to explore and reveal an interesting phenomenon. But by the end, as she begins to realize that the beautiful community will judge her unrepresentative and hence “ugly,” she says, “When I listen to that now, I feel a twinge of disappointment in my voice. It is really not fun to have people look at your picture and say, hmm, no.”
I want to praise this one young woman’s ability and strength because she, while in college, went out on her own, armed with a recorder and a desire to know, and recorded this wonderful radio piece.
I invite all you young women who are watching this exhibit to swallow your fears and doubts and do the same. There are questions to be asked and answers to be gotten as close as in your own back yards.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:42 PM
I haven't bought a fashion magazine in years. One of my co-workers is shocked and mildly disgusted by this fact and asks WHY I’m not In Touch…
I could say that boycotting them has been my silent protest against the beauty industry and the ideals it produces. But I know that I'm still as easily influenced by looks and concerned by my own outward appearance as the typical Cosmo subscriber.
I could say that by not buying them I'm saving money and buying time and therefore actively rebelling consumerism. But I still spend money on beauty products and waste hours of my life away applying them to my feet, hair and face throughout the day.
The truth is that I can't escape the styles, messages and ideals that fashion magazines produce. They're very much a part of the reality I live in Cosmopolitan San Francisco. I don't read fashion magazines because I don't have to. I see what's In Style on the train each morning on my way to work. The eyeshadow my colleague wears so expertly clues me in on the Vogue colors of the season.
I haven’t bought a fashion magazine in years. "Why not?" my co-worker presses.
I don’t feel
any better
any smarter
any healthier
any sexier
any happier
or
even any more hopeful after reading them.
Isn’t that what these magazines are promising when we fork over the $4.50? 100 pages worth of answers to better health, better sex, confidence, happiness. That’s a lot for your buck. The last time I bought one I just remember feeling worse.
To my co-worker I reply, "So, why?"
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Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 2:43 PM
I would add to the conversation that more than brainwashed we are seduced by the media. Brainwashed doesn't permit the experience of pleasure we often feel watching
a range of images. What I worry about is how so many of contemporary images, programs, etc reinforce issues of competition. All of the "idol" shows that promote local talent also suggest a dichotomy of winners OR losers. Just taking risks is about being a winner in my mind. Sexto Sentido so powerfully connects story and drama with values I appreciate! |
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